On this week's show we have Phil's close friend, best man at his wedding, and amazing music educator Jeremy Kondrat. When we were not roasting Phil (and I'd say 90% of the podcast IS the roasting) we talk about Eastman, music education in Texas, Cudahy, teaching creativity, mentoring young teachers, "Developing Musicianship Through Improvisation" by Chris Azzara, the connection between Maslanka 4 and Mary Had A Little Lamb, mentoring, ski trips with the Ostranders, "Hey Buddy", bullseye focus on kids and music, pandemic in Texas, Drive by Dan Pink, and more.