beyond ArtLess

“Beyond ArtLess" with Chris Gleason, Peter Haberman & Phil Ostrander is a podcast that explores the friendships and the community that exists in and outside of the arts and arts education. In each episode of Beyond ArtLess, one of the hosts reveals his mystery guest to the other two. What comes next is a fun-filled conversation revealing the joy of friendship and the artlessness of the hosts. Unlike most successful classrooms, this show is not well planned and probably not worth your time.

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Matt Pivec

May 24, 2025 • Season 3 • Episode 49

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What happens when you get three Gleasons who play tuba in the same ArtLess episode?
Chaos. Pure, brass-fueled chaos.

Fortunately, we’re joined by the ever-talented Matt Pivec, who brings not only his impressive musical accomplishments but also a touchdown story you truly have to hear to believe. Matt shares insights on balancing multiple interests, pushing back against the pressure to specialize too early, and how improvisation in education goes far beyond jazz solos.

The conversation weaves through student engagement, the power of storytelling in the classroom, and how music festivals are expanding opportunities for young performers.

Matt’s reverse speed round—and his razor-sharp wit—graciously offset the collective nonsense of this week’s five hosts (yes, five).

Brace yourself for an episode that’s as enlightening as it is unreasonably tuba-heavy.

Learn More about Matt Here:

https://www.butler.edu/jordan-arts/undergraduate-programs/music/faculty-staff/jazz-area-faculty/

Recording Credits:

Freddie Hubbard - You're My Everything [Alternate Take]

https://youtu.be/iXltPEj4VhQ?si=f3-SGf5SKWXIb49R

Hub-Tones (1963)

Personnel:

Freddie Hubbard (Trumpet)

James Spaulding (Alto saxophone)

Herbie Hancock (Piano)